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		<title>By: Kirsty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Librlman You rock! Those are some amazing observations. Wow!</description>
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		<title>By: librlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>librlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 04:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having thought about the above-mentioned Last Supper pics that TightFighter brought up.  As I had previously stated, the fold-in/inlay composite image showed a lighted cross, and I&#039;d suggested the possibility of a sort of Holy Trinity.  Having gone and taken a second look, I think that Anders will likely sacrifice himself somehow (ghost image), but I also think that Caprica Six will likewise sacrifice herself (probably saving Hera).  Why, you might asK?  The fold-in/composite has the cross, which incidentally takes the place of Caprica in the center of the altered pic.  Also, while it has been suggested that Natalie is pointing at Caprica in the original pic and Helo or Galen in the fold-in pic, it actually looks to me as if she is pointing dead-center at the cross.  Will Natalie cause Caprica&#039;s death?  [Caprica IS the only one from the original pic who doesn&#039;t appear in the fold-in composite.]

Other nifty points from the pics:

The lamp in front of Roslin seems to have three flames (again an allusion to a Holy Trinity?).

In the fold-in, an open book appears before Baltar (alluding to his emerging role as a prophet).

The grail appears in front of Kara (will she carry the blood of a Savior?  Will she get jiggy with Anders one last time before he makes his sacrifice?  Or will Baltar be her babydaddy?).

The glasses on the table... if you look closely, it appears as if one is 5/8ths full, and the other is 7/8ths full.  I never saw anyone mention that, but it does lend credence to the whole notion of overlaying those images (the 5 join the 7 in unity, and our cup runneth over).

Finally, taking one last look at the inlay, we see that Roslin, Natalie, and Tigh are on one side; Caprica/cross, Lee, Kara, Anders, Baltar, and Galen are in the center (the heart of the story?); and Athena, Helo, and Adama balance Ros/Nat/Tigh, perhaps on opposing sides of some crucial decision yet to come (e.g., do we trust the Cylon rebels or not?  Or what/who shall control the fate of Hera?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having thought about the above-mentioned Last Supper pics that TightFighter brought up.  As I had previously stated, the fold-in/inlay composite image showed a lighted cross, and I&#8217;d suggested the possibility of a sort of Holy Trinity.  Having gone and taken a second look, I think that Anders will likely sacrifice himself somehow (ghost image), but I also think that Caprica Six will likewise sacrifice herself (probably saving Hera).  Why, you might asK?  The fold-in/composite has the cross, which incidentally takes the place of Caprica in the center of the altered pic.  Also, while it has been suggested that Natalie is pointing at Caprica in the original pic and Helo or Galen in the fold-in pic, it actually looks to me as if she is pointing dead-center at the cross.  Will Natalie cause Caprica&#8217;s death?  [Caprica IS the only one from the original pic who doesn't appear in the fold-in composite.]</p>
<p>Other nifty points from the pics:</p>
<p>The lamp in front of Roslin seems to have three flames (again an allusion to a Holy Trinity?).</p>
<p>In the fold-in, an open book appears before Baltar (alluding to his emerging role as a prophet).</p>
<p>The grail appears in front of Kara (will she carry the blood of a Savior?  Will she get jiggy with Anders one last time before he makes his sacrifice?  Or will Baltar be her babydaddy?).</p>
<p>The glasses on the table&#8230; if you look closely, it appears as if one is 5/8ths full, and the other is 7/8ths full.  I never saw anyone mention that, but it does lend credence to the whole notion of overlaying those images (the 5 join the 7 in unity, and our cup runneth over).</p>
<p>Finally, taking one last look at the inlay, we see that Roslin, Natalie, and Tigh are on one side; Caprica/cross, Lee, Kara, Anders, Baltar, and Galen are in the center (the heart of the story?); and Athena, Helo, and Adama balance Ros/Nat/Tigh, perhaps on opposing sides of some crucial decision yet to come (e.g., do we trust the Cylon rebels or not?  Or what/who shall control the fate of Hera?).</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sirslam:

Awww... make me blush. :)  Another reading you can &#039;retcon&#039; onto the scene, is that her sadness comes out of the Cylon obsession with the one &#039;blessing&#039; God gave to humanity but withheld from them: The ability to reproduce.  It&#039;s interesting to see that, four seasons later, Caprica-Six is absolutely convinced that Hera  is the key to the survival of both races.  Cap-Six must have known that she wasn&#039;t going to be welcomed with open arms when she helped Athena rescue Hera.  But she did it anyway.  She&#039;s said repeatedly that she would even die the final death to protext &quot;the first of the next generation of God&#039;s children&quot;.</description>
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<p>Awww&#8230; make me blush. <img src='http://bsgcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Another reading you can &#8216;retcon&#8217; onto the scene, is that her sadness comes out of the Cylon obsession with the one &#8216;blessing&#8217; God gave to humanity but withheld from them: The ability to reproduce.  It&#8217;s interesting to see that, four seasons later, Caprica-Six is absolutely convinced that Hera  is the key to the survival of both races.  Cap-Six must have known that she wasn&#8217;t going to be welcomed with open arms when she helped Athena rescue Hera.  But she did it anyway.  She&#8217;s said repeatedly that she would even die the final death to protext &#8220;the first of the next generation of God&#8217;s children&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you mentioned whether Galen was important to Gauis Baltar,s cause I have too disagree with you. From a military point of of view no he is not that valuable to the cause he is just a chief and doesnt hold a great deal of influence but from a religous point of view he is really important. Galen represents the a lost soul at its most extreme. He is angry and emotionally unstable most people would consider him unsaveable and not even worth trying to save. This fact coupled with the fact that his parents served the gods (his father being a priest and his mother an oracle) sends a huge message to the followers of the &quot;one true god&quot;. Gauis was basically saying look i can save this angry man from himself as well as from his deep seeded roots in the old religion so who can&#039;t I save. It was a very jesus like move especailly when his say to his followers right before he enters the room &quot;Our message is for everyone, especailly for the one who dont want to listen&quot;. Torn almost verbatim from the bible!! I&#039;m excited to see where this goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you mentioned whether Galen was important to Gauis Baltar,s cause I have too disagree with you. From a military point of of view no he is not that valuable to the cause he is just a chief and doesnt hold a great deal of influence but from a religous point of view he is really important. Galen represents the a lost soul at its most extreme. He is angry and emotionally unstable most people would consider him unsaveable and not even worth trying to save. This fact coupled with the fact that his parents served the gods (his father being a priest and his mother an oracle) sends a huge message to the followers of the &#8220;one true god&#8221;. Gauis was basically saying look i can save this angry man from himself as well as from his deep seeded roots in the old religion so who can&#8217;t I save. It was a very jesus like move especailly when his say to his followers right before he enters the room &#8220;Our message is for everyone, especailly for the one who dont want to listen&#8221;. Torn almost verbatim from the bible!! I&#8217;m excited to see where this goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sirslam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sirslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, that is a most excellent comment.  She does look very sad as she walks away...VERY sad.  Like she knows she is about to commit a &quot;crime against humanity&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I want to know why Caprica Six killed the baby on Caprica during the first episode. Any thoughts on that?&lt;/i&gt;

OK, perhaps I&#039;m projecting here but I&#039;ve just watched that scene and as Caprica Six walks away she looks so &lt;i&gt;sad&lt;/i&gt; -- it&#039;s her one act of mercy.  Six knows that in a matter of hours that child will be dead anyway, and she couldn&#039;t stop it even if she wanted to but she can save the child from being burnt in a nuclear fireball.  

Both in the writing, and in Tricia&#039;s performance, I thought this was the moment we got the message that the Cylons weren&#039;t going to be your kitset SF Big Bads, and Six wasn&#039;t just some Mata Hari ho-bot -- there&#039;s nuances and ambiguities at work here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I want to know why Caprica Six killed the baby on Caprica during the first episode. Any thoughts on that?</i></p>
<p>OK, perhaps I&#8217;m projecting here but I&#8217;ve just watched that scene and as Caprica Six walks away she looks so <i>sad</i> &#8212; it&#8217;s her one act of mercy.  Six knows that in a matter of hours that child will be dead anyway, and she couldn&#8217;t stop it even if she wanted to but she can save the child from being burnt in a nuclear fireball.  </p>
<p>Both in the writing, and in Tricia&#8217;s performance, I thought this was the moment we got the message that the Cylons weren&#8217;t going to be your kitset SF Big Bads, and Six wasn&#8217;t just some Mata Hari ho-bot &#8212; there&#8217;s nuances and ambiguities at work here.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap there&#039;s a lot of comments. I get the feeling at this point, Starbuck would probably be more violent towards Anders if she found out he was a cylon rather than Leoben.</description>
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		<title>By: Tootie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tootie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Riley,
Fine if you think Gaeta is the final cylon (or Dee or Lee or Zarek or Starbuck or Cain or Shaw or Seelix etc.).  
But what will be done with that in terms of story? Again, we can speculate based on past and present hints about if Gaeta is a &quot;fit,&quot;  but what’s going to be the significance of Gaeta being the final cylon for the fleet and survival of humanity? 
Said another way, what would the writers do with Gaeta as the final cylon? 

Stick with me here - I think you&#039;ll find it&#039;s worth it:
 
1) If the story is going to be that this person secretly finds out she/he is a cylon and that will be so painful and abhorrent that this person decides to take all cylons out, including himself or herself....does this work for Gaeta? Or Dee, or Lee or Zarak or Starbuck etc.? No, I don&#039;t think so. It wouldn&#039;t  have any punch with these characters...it would be the same as when we found out Tory and Sam were cylons compared to finding out Tyrel and Tighe were. This wouldn&#039;t work for Adama; he knows how close humans and cylons are, and would come to accept his new identity pretty quickly I think. It wouldn&#039;t destroy him.
However, this option would work for Roslin. Finding out she&#039;s a cylon would literally tear her apart, and has great story potential. She of ALL characters (besides Tyrel) has no sympathy for cylons, no close relationships with them, and she sees them completely as the enemy. And she&#039;s in a position as leader to carry this storyline forward.

2) Let&#039;s look at a vastly different final cylon storyline...the final cylon unites everyone. (As I said, this would be kinda lame, since humans and cylons already seem to be uniting…But still, let&#039;s try it.) Can Gaeta unite humans and cylons? NO. Not enough connection with both. Same with Dee or Lee or Zarek or Roslin. 
However, Baltar or the Admiral would fit here. The Admiral fits better. He has enough connections with both sides (with Sharon and Tighe etc. on the cylon side) to pull this off. Happy ending, but not much dramatic potential in terms of suspense and conflict.

3) MAJIC (above in this forum) says the story will be that the final cylon will be the cylon god and &quot;want to be worshipped.&quot; Seems kinda lame (sorry, but it just doesn&#039;t seem to have much dramatic potential in terms of suspense and/or conflict), but lets&#039; go with it. That would fit for Baltar and that&#039;s about it. 
So, let&#039;s say Baltar is the final cylon and &quot;one true god.&quot;  The problem is, it doesn&#039;t change anything. Right now he is worshipped by some and not others, and if he were to be outed as the final cylon and &quot;one true god,&quot; the same will be true - some will worship him and some will not accept him as any kind of spiritual leader or god, and the conflicts that already exist over this will continue. Nothing would change. Were can it go?

4) I have thought of another final cylon storyline. This character finds out that he/she is a cylon, but it stays a secret. That is, this cylon sees that having another certain person be believed to be the final cylon instead (a person who can unite everyone and end the war), would be better and somehow makes it happen. (That is, this person convinces Admiral Adama, for example, to take on the uniting role.) 
Then you would see this person unwillingly or willingly &quot;sacrifice&quot; himself/herself while getting the fleet to Earth, dying somehow in a cylon-human fire-fight or through torture until death....and no one will know what they have done in killing this person, that they have killed the final cylon. (Holy martyr batman)
THIS WOULD WORK for Gaeta, Dee, Lee, Zarek, etc.   

5) ?

6) ?

In terms of interesting story, I like 1) and 4) best. Either has great potential for twists and turns and character development. I must say I would like to see 1). Mary McDonnel would do a hell of a lot with Roslin being torn apart and pulling off genocide/suicide...

Please add or comment, 
Tootie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Riley,<br />
Fine if you think Gaeta is the final cylon (or Dee or Lee or Zarek or Starbuck or Cain or Shaw or Seelix etc.).<br />
But what will be done with that in terms of story? Again, we can speculate based on past and present hints about if Gaeta is a &#8220;fit,&#8221;  but what’s going to be the significance of Gaeta being the final cylon for the fleet and survival of humanity?<br />
Said another way, what would the writers do with Gaeta as the final cylon? </p>
<p>Stick with me here &#8211; I think you&#8217;ll find it&#8217;s worth it:</p>
<p>1) If the story is going to be that this person secretly finds out she/he is a cylon and that will be so painful and abhorrent that this person decides to take all cylons out, including himself or herself&#8230;.does this work for Gaeta? Or Dee, or Lee or Zarak or Starbuck etc.? No, I don&#8217;t think so. It wouldn&#8217;t  have any punch with these characters&#8230;it would be the same as when we found out Tory and Sam were cylons compared to finding out Tyrel and Tighe were. This wouldn&#8217;t work for Adama; he knows how close humans and cylons are, and would come to accept his new identity pretty quickly I think. It wouldn&#8217;t destroy him.<br />
However, this option would work for Roslin. Finding out she&#8217;s a cylon would literally tear her apart, and has great story potential. She of ALL characters (besides Tyrel) has no sympathy for cylons, no close relationships with them, and she sees them completely as the enemy. And she&#8217;s in a position as leader to carry this storyline forward.</p>
<p>2) Let&#8217;s look at a vastly different final cylon storyline&#8230;the final cylon unites everyone. (As I said, this would be kinda lame, since humans and cylons already seem to be uniting…But still, let&#8217;s try it.) Can Gaeta unite humans and cylons? NO. Not enough connection with both. Same with Dee or Lee or Zarek or Roslin.<br />
However, Baltar or the Admiral would fit here. The Admiral fits better. He has enough connections with both sides (with Sharon and Tighe etc. on the cylon side) to pull this off. Happy ending, but not much dramatic potential in terms of suspense and conflict.</p>
<p>3) MAJIC (above in this forum) says the story will be that the final cylon will be the cylon god and &#8220;want to be worshipped.&#8221; Seems kinda lame (sorry, but it just doesn&#8217;t seem to have much dramatic potential in terms of suspense and/or conflict), but lets&#8217; go with it. That would fit for Baltar and that&#8217;s about it.<br />
So, let&#8217;s say Baltar is the final cylon and &#8220;one true god.&#8221;  The problem is, it doesn&#8217;t change anything. Right now he is worshipped by some and not others, and if he were to be outed as the final cylon and &#8220;one true god,&#8221; the same will be true &#8211; some will worship him and some will not accept him as any kind of spiritual leader or god, and the conflicts that already exist over this will continue. Nothing would change. Were can it go?</p>
<p>4) I have thought of another final cylon storyline. This character finds out that he/she is a cylon, but it stays a secret. That is, this cylon sees that having another certain person be believed to be the final cylon instead (a person who can unite everyone and end the war), would be better and somehow makes it happen. (That is, this person convinces Admiral Adama, for example, to take on the uniting role.)<br />
Then you would see this person unwillingly or willingly &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; himself/herself while getting the fleet to Earth, dying somehow in a cylon-human fire-fight or through torture until death&#8230;.and no one will know what they have done in killing this person, that they have killed the final cylon. (Holy martyr batman)<br />
THIS WOULD WORK for Gaeta, Dee, Lee, Zarek, etc.   </p>
<p>5) ?</p>
<p>6) ?</p>
<p>In terms of interesting story, I like 1) and 4) best. Either has great potential for twists and turns and character development. I must say I would like to see 1). Mary McDonnel would do a hell of a lot with Roslin being torn apart and pulling off genocide/suicide&#8230;</p>
<p>Please add or comment,<br />
Tootie</p>
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