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		<title>By: Nickolas Cossette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nickolas Cossette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 12:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey can I quote some of the content found in this entry if I provide a link back to your site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey can I quote some of the content found in this entry if I provide a link back to your site?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret Olden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret Olden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome web-site, exactly where did you get the design?</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.bsgcast.com/bsgcast-408-faith/comment-page-5/#comment-13686</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am certain that the &quot;one who is reborn&quot; must be Kara Thrace.  We saw her die and come back with a brand new ship.  Does that shed light on anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am certain that the &#8220;one who is reborn&#8221; must be Kara Thrace.  We saw her die and come back with a brand new ship.  Does that shed light on anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Luciana</title>
		<link>http://www.bsgcast.com/bsgcast-408-faith/comment-page-5/#comment-13588</link>
		<dc:creator>Luciana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This week&#039;s episode is already around the web. Did they air it last week or it leaked? Anyways, excelent surprise to get my BSG fix earlier this week!! XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week&#8217;s episode is already around the web. Did they air it last week or it leaked? Anyways, excelent surprise to get my BSG fix earlier this week!! XD</p>
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		<title>By: hypnotizedrider</title>
		<link>http://www.bsgcast.com/bsgcast-408-faith/comment-page-5/#comment-13460</link>
		<dc:creator>hypnotizedrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 01:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fifth and final cylon could be only someone that deanna was around....cause she said:&quot;i&#039;m sorry...i had no idea...&quot; meaning it was someone who she felt she had known or done wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fifth and final cylon could be only someone that deanna was around&#8230;.cause she said:&#8221;i&#8217;m sorry&#8230;i had no idea&#8230;&#8221; meaning it was someone who she felt she had known or done wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tootie</title>
		<link>http://www.bsgcast.com/bsgcast-408-faith/comment-page-5/#comment-12708</link>
		<dc:creator>Tootie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Adalla, 

......I think that if Roslin finds out she&#039;s a cylon, she will need and want redemption. Just the fact that she&#039;s a cylon would mean to her that she&#039;s got blood on her hands, so much blood, simply because she&#039;s one of them (sorta like Tyrel&#039;s reaction). Plus she could do something very bad in the next few episodes that we haven&#039;t seen yet, and be in need of redemption.
So just because Roslin doesn&#039;t need redemption now, doesn&#039;t mean she won&#039;t later in her eyes or everyone&#039;s eyes.  

As I have said, let&#039;s look at plot. If the story is going to be that the final person secretly finds out she/he is a cylon and that will be so painful and abhorrent that this person decides to take all cylons out, including himself or herself…this option would work for Roslin. Finding out she’s a cylon would literally tear her apart, and has great story potential. She of ALL characters has no sympathy for cylons, no close relationships with them, and sees them completely as the enemy. And she’s in a position as a leader to carry this storyline forward.

On other notes,
Re-watching &#039;Faith,&#039; I can&#039;t help but notice Roslin&#039;s mother on the shore looks a lot like Mrs. Bush (senior). I don&#039;t know why that&#039;s funny but it is. 

Interesting how at the very end of the episode, Adama says &quot;Helo, Athena, Gaeta, will I ever see those kids again?&quot; - completely accepting Athena as one of his kids. Wow.

Tootie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Adalla, </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;I think that if Roslin finds out she&#8217;s a cylon, she will need and want redemption. Just the fact that she&#8217;s a cylon would mean to her that she&#8217;s got blood on her hands, so much blood, simply because she&#8217;s one of them (sorta like Tyrel&#8217;s reaction). Plus she could do something very bad in the next few episodes that we haven&#8217;t seen yet, and be in need of redemption.<br />
So just because Roslin doesn&#8217;t need redemption now, doesn&#8217;t mean she won&#8217;t later in her eyes or everyone&#8217;s eyes.  </p>
<p>As I have said, let&#8217;s look at plot. If the story is going to be that the final person secretly finds out she/he is a cylon and that will be so painful and abhorrent that this person decides to take all cylons out, including himself or herself…this option would work for Roslin. Finding out she’s a cylon would literally tear her apart, and has great story potential. She of ALL characters has no sympathy for cylons, no close relationships with them, and sees them completely as the enemy. And she’s in a position as a leader to carry this storyline forward.</p>
<p>On other notes,<br />
Re-watching &#8216;Faith,&#8217; I can&#8217;t help but notice Roslin&#8217;s mother on the shore looks a lot like Mrs. Bush (senior). I don&#8217;t know why that&#8217;s funny but it is. </p>
<p>Interesting how at the very end of the episode, Adama says &#8220;Helo, Athena, Gaeta, will I ever see those kids again?&#8221; &#8211; completely accepting Athena as one of his kids. Wow.</p>
<p>Tootie</p>
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		<title>By: gaseous clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaseous clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From what I saw of Admiral Cain, there was not even ONE instant, where she even came close to being sorry for what she had done. All the atrocities, abandoning and entire civilian fleet that probably ended up being captured, tortured and/or killed by the Cylon. Shooting of her XO, and the inhuman torture of Gina. 

If she came back and THEN showed an interest in redemption, I could see her fitting the prophecy well. However, I find it highly unlikely that there is enough time left to truly develop Cain’s character to fit the prophecy. She certainly does not fit it from what we’ve seen so far. SHe doesnt seem sorry at all for anything she’s done.&quot;

perhaps, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s required for her to verbalise remorse in any shape or form. I think her suffering came from inside and she may have struggled with the idea that as an Admiral she had to be the strong leader - showing remorse would be a sign of weakness. Kendra Shaw was merely an instrument, a means to an end. 

going back to her little sister being taken by the cylons, this was obviously the catalyst that cemented her persona into what it was -- she showed weakness in a time of danger and she lost her sister. her role as the commander of the Pegasus didn&#039;t allow her to do that. it&#039;s the same with Adama. he&#039;s usually portrayed as the stern commander who can&#039;t get close to his crew, but as we saw in the Faith episode, Adama showed us a softer side to his personality which he never reveals to anyone. So, given her responsibilities in the fleet I would say Cain fits the mold. you may be right about her NOT being the final cylon but I wouldn&#039;t count her out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From what I saw of Admiral Cain, there was not even ONE instant, where she even came close to being sorry for what she had done. All the atrocities, abandoning and entire civilian fleet that probably ended up being captured, tortured and/or killed by the Cylon. Shooting of her XO, and the inhuman torture of Gina. </p>
<p>If she came back and THEN showed an interest in redemption, I could see her fitting the prophecy well. However, I find it highly unlikely that there is enough time left to truly develop Cain’s character to fit the prophecy. She certainly does not fit it from what we’ve seen so far. SHe doesnt seem sorry at all for anything she’s done.&#8221;</p>
<p>perhaps, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s required for her to verbalise remorse in any shape or form. I think her suffering came from inside and she may have struggled with the idea that as an Admiral she had to be the strong leader &#8211; showing remorse would be a sign of weakness. Kendra Shaw was merely an instrument, a means to an end. </p>
<p>going back to her little sister being taken by the cylons, this was obviously the catalyst that cemented her persona into what it was &#8212; she showed weakness in a time of danger and she lost her sister. her role as the commander of the Pegasus didn&#8217;t allow her to do that. it&#8217;s the same with Adama. he&#8217;s usually portrayed as the stern commander who can&#8217;t get close to his crew, but as we saw in the Faith episode, Adama showed us a softer side to his personality which he never reveals to anyone. So, given her responsibilities in the fleet I would say Cain fits the mold. you may be right about her NOT being the final cylon but I wouldn&#8217;t count her out.</p>
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		<title>By: Zorak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zorak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I was thinkin about when the guy slightly put his hand in the goo, after that he said a detail about the cylon ships capabilities or something that he might possibly not have known if he didnt do that. Just an idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I was thinkin about when the guy slightly put his hand in the goo, after that he said a detail about the cylon ships capabilities or something that he might possibly not have known if he didnt do that. Just an idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Adalla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I would argue that Adm Cain fits the prophecy as well. She suffered when her little sister was taken away and she might want redemption because she LET them take her away, and by that I mean she did nothing to help her sister when she fell and hurt herself. Or, she might be seeking redemption for her actions against the civilian fleet - it was her that ordered the Pegasus crew to strip the civilian ships of parts and labor, so the deaths of the family would fall on her shoulders, not Kendra Shaw.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From what I saw of Admiral Cain, there was not even ONE instant, where she even came close to being sorry for what she had done. All the atrocities, abandoning and entire civilian fleet that probably ended up being captured, tortured and/or killed by the Cylon. Shooting of her XO, and the inhuman torture of Gina. 

If she came back and THEN showed an interest in redemption, I could see her fitting the prophecy well. However, I find it highly unlikely that there is enough time left to truly develop Cain&#039;s character to fit the prophecy. She certainly does not fit it from what we&#039;ve seen so far. SHe doesnt seem sorry at all for anything she&#039;s done. 

Kendra on the other hand, was one of two characters we seen (the other as I said is Baltar) who openly asked for redemption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I would argue that Adm Cain fits the prophecy as well. She suffered when her little sister was taken away and she might want redemption because she LET them take her away, and by that I mean she did nothing to help her sister when she fell and hurt herself. Or, she might be seeking redemption for her actions against the civilian fleet &#8211; it was her that ordered the Pegasus crew to strip the civilian ships of parts and labor, so the deaths of the family would fall on her shoulders, not Kendra Shaw.</p></blockquote>
<p>From what I saw of Admiral Cain, there was not even ONE instant, where she even came close to being sorry for what she had done. All the atrocities, abandoning and entire civilian fleet that probably ended up being captured, tortured and/or killed by the Cylon. Shooting of her XO, and the inhuman torture of Gina. </p>
<p>If she came back and THEN showed an interest in redemption, I could see her fitting the prophecy well. However, I find it highly unlikely that there is enough time left to truly develop Cain&#8217;s character to fit the prophecy. She certainly does not fit it from what we&#8217;ve seen so far. SHe doesnt seem sorry at all for anything she&#8217;s done. </p>
<p>Kendra on the other hand, was one of two characters we seen (the other as I said is Baltar) who openly asked for redemption.</p>
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		<title>By: CB2001</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gaseous- You sort of got a point there.  

Even more ironic, another circle in the stream: Roslin was responsible for the deaths of the civies aboard the Olypmic Carrier, not Apollo (though he feels guilty for pulling the trigger).  Shaw feels guilty about what happened to the civies on the Syllia, but it was Cain that gave the order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gaseous- You sort of got a point there.  </p>
<p>Even more ironic, another circle in the stream: Roslin was responsible for the deaths of the civies aboard the Olypmic Carrier, not Apollo (though he feels guilty for pulling the trigger).  Shaw feels guilty about what happened to the civies on the Syllia, but it was Cain that gave the order.</p>
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