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	<title>Comments on: BSGcast: 4.10 “Sine Qua Non”</title>
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		<title>By: Tivo Premiere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tivo Premiere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking for dvr related tips, this was good - bookmarked your site!</description>
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		<title>By: Tootie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tootie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was cool they left the &#039;JUMP!&#039; cliffhanger for an episode. Drew out the suspense.

I agree that Tighe and Adama after their brawl were all &#039;We&#039;re too old for this&#039; hahahaha

I wonder what Baltar will say about Caprica pregnant by Tighe. Does she have any feelings for him anymore and vice versa?

All this talk about interbreeding is silly. Anyone knows (and the BSG science advisor Kevin knows) that you can&#039;t really make an impact with 12 people. That is, 12 cylons interbreeding with humans isn&#039;t going to make a difference in population genetics even if they have a WHOLE LOT of babies, which is of course impossible anyway.

Funny how some people assume this board is US-based. It&#039;s not...it&#039;s Canuck-based...a constitutional monarchy of Britain, hahaha

Tootie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was cool they left the &#8216;JUMP!&#8217; cliffhanger for an episode. Drew out the suspense.</p>
<p>I agree that Tighe and Adama after their brawl were all &#8216;We&#8217;re too old for this&#8217; hahahaha</p>
<p>I wonder what Baltar will say about Caprica pregnant by Tighe. Does she have any feelings for him anymore and vice versa?</p>
<p>All this talk about interbreeding is silly. Anyone knows (and the BSG science advisor Kevin knows) that you can&#8217;t really make an impact with 12 people. That is, 12 cylons interbreeding with humans isn&#8217;t going to make a difference in population genetics even if they have a WHOLE LOT of babies, which is of course impossible anyway.</p>
<p>Funny how some people assume this board is US-based. It&#8217;s not&#8230;it&#8217;s Canuck-based&#8230;a constitutional monarchy of Britain, hahaha</p>
<p>Tootie</p>
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		<title>By: Stargatecrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stargatecrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, but that might have to do with the fact that I&#039;m an Adama/Roslin shipper.

What I thought let it down was the whole Lee/Lampkin plot line. For one, the whole HeadCat idea really confused me. Untill I listened to Matt and Nat&#039;s BSG podcast for the episode, I had no idea that the cat was in his imagination...I was really puzzled when Lee said the cat had been dead for weeks...maybe I&#039;m just slow.
And why are they suddenly installing Lee as President. He&#039;s only been in politics for a couple of months and Laura Roslin is MIA not KIA. Poor Zarek never gets a chance.

I also realised that Kara was acting very...normal, in this episode. Which is actually not normal. Kara has never acted normal throughout the whole series of BSG, be it punching officers, drinking and flying madly to screaming that they were going the wrong way to find Earth.

If I&#039;m being unbiased, I&#039;d give this episode a 5/10 but since I loved all the Adama/Tigh interaction and Bill&#039;s &quot;I can&#039;t live without her&quot; comment to Lee about Laura I give it a 9/10.

-SGC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, but that might have to do with the fact that I&#8217;m an Adama/Roslin shipper.</p>
<p>What I thought let it down was the whole Lee/Lampkin plot line. For one, the whole HeadCat idea really confused me. Untill I listened to Matt and Nat&#8217;s BSG podcast for the episode, I had no idea that the cat was in his imagination&#8230;I was really puzzled when Lee said the cat had been dead for weeks&#8230;maybe I&#8217;m just slow.<br />
And why are they suddenly installing Lee as President. He&#8217;s only been in politics for a couple of months and Laura Roslin is MIA not KIA. Poor Zarek never gets a chance.</p>
<p>I also realised that Kara was acting very&#8230;normal, in this episode. Which is actually not normal. Kara has never acted normal throughout the whole series of BSG, be it punching officers, drinking and flying madly to screaming that they were going the wrong way to find Earth.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m being unbiased, I&#8217;d give this episode a 5/10 but since I loved all the Adama/Tigh interaction and Bill&#8217;s &#8220;I can&#8217;t live without her&#8221; comment to Lee about Laura I give it a 9/10.</p>
<p>-SGC</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Kellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Kellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I loved this eposide! It sucked no BSG till Tuesday. I though It was so worth the 3 hour download (by the way I only got audio. lol) My favorite part was the Adama Tigh part, it was sooo cool, but a bit wired that they beat each other up them it&#039;s like oh yeah I love Roslin and so now I&#039;m making your cylon ass the new Admiral that&#039;s in charge of the fleet. Good ep. though.

-Sam Kellie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I loved this eposide! It sucked no BSG till Tuesday. I though It was so worth the 3 hour download (by the way I only got audio. lol) My favorite part was the Adama Tigh part, it was sooo cool, but a bit wired that they beat each other up them it&#8217;s like oh yeah I love Roslin and so now I&#8217;m making your cylon ass the new Admiral that&#8217;s in charge of the fleet. Good ep. though.</p>
<p>-Sam Kellie</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abaddon - &quot;Kirsty, I like the theory. Roslin’s dream could’ve been purely her imagination. But that doesn’t explain where Baltar got the stream image. &quot;

I don&#039;t think roslyns deram was in her imagination at all. She was on a barge on a river, not a stream. I think her dream is defanitly real. However.... that leads to another possiblity. Maybe Leoben was speaking of the river between worlds, the one Laura was sailing on. Ahhh Considering it may have something to do with the final 5 its defanitley a possibility. 
And I don&#039;t actually remember Baltars talking about streams.... I may have to sift through some episodes to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abaddon &#8211; &#8220;Kirsty, I like the theory. Roslin’s dream could’ve been purely her imagination. But that doesn’t explain where Baltar got the stream image. &#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think roslyns deram was in her imagination at all. She was on a barge on a river, not a stream. I think her dream is defanitly real. However&#8230;. that leads to another possiblity. Maybe Leoben was speaking of the river between worlds, the one Laura was sailing on. Ahhh Considering it may have something to do with the final 5 its defanitley a possibility.<br />
And I don&#8217;t actually remember Baltars talking about streams&#8230;. I may have to sift through some episodes to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I definitely think that D’Anna’s reveal of one of the final five is suspicious. If she outs Anders, the repercussions would be a bit much, I think, this early in the season. She could be addressing Roslin, but even if she is, I don’t consider D’Anna to be a very predictable character. It’s possible she could be trying to deceive everyone (within that room, at least) for some ulterior motive, or just lying for some reason or another….what does anyone else think?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I kinda agree with you -- I&#039;m not saying D&#039;Anna &lt;i&gt;wouldn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; &#039;out&#039; Anders (who, if my memory serves, is the only one of the Penultimate Four on the baseship) but I wouldn&#039;t put it past her to be really, really pissed about being boxed and/or be operating in some whole other headspace since her vision.

Having said that, I don&#039;t entirely buy that it&#039;s &#039;too early&#039; for the Penultimate Four&#039;s identities to start coming out.  This is what the Rebels are obsessed with, after all, and without the moderating influence of Natalie to chill things out I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything they won&#039;t do to force them out of hiding.  You&#039;ve also got to wonder where the Hybrid and the newly-sentient Centurions fit into this chess game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I definitely think that D’Anna’s reveal of one of the final five is suspicious. If she outs Anders, the repercussions would be a bit much, I think, this early in the season. She could be addressing Roslin, but even if she is, I don’t consider D’Anna to be a very predictable character. It’s possible she could be trying to deceive everyone (within that room, at least) for some ulterior motive, or just lying for some reason or another….what does anyone else think?</p></blockquote>
<p>I kinda agree with you &#8212; I&#8217;m not saying D&#8217;Anna <i>wouldn&#8217;t</i> &#8216;out&#8217; Anders (who, if my memory serves, is the only one of the Penultimate Four on the baseship) but I wouldn&#8217;t put it past her to be really, really pissed about being boxed and/or be operating in some whole other headspace since her vision.</p>
<p>Having said that, I don&#8217;t entirely buy that it&#8217;s &#8216;too early&#8217; for the Penultimate Four&#8217;s identities to start coming out.  This is what the Rebels are obsessed with, after all, and without the moderating influence of Natalie to chill things out I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything they won&#8217;t do to force them out of hiding.  You&#8217;ve also got to wonder where the Hybrid and the newly-sentient Centurions fit into this chess game.</p>
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		<title>By: librlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>librlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hybrid said the dying leader would learn the truth of the opera house.  If I remember correctly, Roslin never saw the shiny Final 5 in the opera house, but she did see Baltar and Six with Hera.  She&#039;ll end up learning about the Final 5, but I think she&#039;ll also likely learn why Hera is there (again, Helo as the final Final, and Hera is the 1st true-born pure-bred cylon).  Whether she&#039;ll accept Six and Baltar as being the protectors of Hera (if that is what they will end up being) will be interesting to watch.

I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hybrid said the dying leader would learn the truth of the opera house.  If I remember correctly, Roslin never saw the shiny Final 5 in the opera house, but she did see Baltar and Six with Hera.  She&#8217;ll end up learning about the Final 5, but I think she&#8217;ll also likely learn why Hera is there (again, Helo as the final Final, and Hera is the 1st true-born pure-bred cylon).  Whether she&#8217;ll accept Six and Baltar as being the protectors of Hera (if that is what they will end up being) will be interesting to watch.</p>
<p>I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: librlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>librlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, it&#039;s been a few weeks since I last posted, mainly b/c I&#039;ve been busy and the thought of wading thru a couple hundred posts to find out who has already said what I&#039;m thinking has been off-putting.  Having only skimmed this thread, I&#039;ll take a stab at posting a point or two that may or may not be original.

Anyway, I&#039;m not convinced that Anders is on the Basestar, nor am I convinced that either Roslin or Baltar is the final Final 5.  I&#039;m thinking that we&#039;ll find out tonight that Helo is the final cylon.  It&#039;s been noted that he could be because apparently the Final 5 can breed with the Sig-7 (unless the Caprica pregnancy is just a red herring).  What I didn&#039;t see noted above (maybe it was and I missed it) is that this would answer the &quot;Why Hera and not Nicky&quot; question.  Hera would be significant enough to be in the Opera House visions because she represents the first of the fully-cylon children to have been bred and born (and not grown in a giant petri dish).  Some have previously speculated that Hera and Nicky might be like Adam and Eve when what remains of the fleet finds Earth, but what if Nicky is not significant at all?  Perhaps Caprica&#039;s child will be Adam to Hera&#039;s Eve (or maybe he&#039;ll be a male version of Eve to Hera&#039;s Adam, given the birth order)?

I agree that &quot;Sine Qua Non&quot; was not the greatest of episodes, and was certainly poorly edited, but I enjoyed it non-the-less.  Hearing Adama use the &quot;Husker&quot; call-sign was cool, but hearing Tigh say &quot;This is Galactica Actual&quot; made me giggle a bit gleefully :o)  It was a bit of a shock just seeing Eddy walk onto the flight deck in that flight suit (they had a suit that just happened to accomodate his middle-age spread?).  

I can sort of understand the way things played out with the Lee/Zarek/Quorum storyline.  Lee invited Zarek to join the search committee, Zarek told him to sit and spin, and Lee didn&#039;t want to ask any other Quorum members to join b/c they&#039;re a contentious lot who seem too busy quarrelling amongst themselves unless they&#039;re being taken by the scruff of the neck and told &quot;this is how it&#039;s going to be&quot;... i.e., if you invite just a few, the rest will feel they and their constituents are being slighted, but if you invite them all then nothing gets done because any suggestions die in committee.  Lee probably never mentioned the search committee to anyone else on the Quorum until they had a candidate.  Lee wanted a small committee to do a big job, and the only one left he thought he could trust (aside from Zarek, if he wasn&#039;t too busy sulking to join) was Romo.  

Whether Romo was purely nuts or just drawing down on Lee to get him to commit (and also being at least partially nuts), he worked for me either way.  Romo was astute enough to go to Papadama with bureaucratic busywork to gauge whether there was any love lost between father and son after the trial, to make sure Lee would be accepted (or rather, if Adama might not accept Zarek if no other acceptable candidate was put forward), and also to indulge in needling Adama about how he&#039;s lost Roslin and implying that he&#039;s lost objectivity (while slyly venting his own frustrations at having lost everything and having no power to get it back while the Adama&#039;s seem to get their way no matter who has to sacrifice for it).  

When Lee went to the Quorum with his suggestion, Zarek could either silently fume or make his case for staying in power, but the Quorum would choose Lee over Zarek for obvious reasons (military command experience, family ties that can survive a mutiny, the candidate for change, etc.).  They just didn&#039;t film it, or else let it hit the cutting room floor.  Anyhow, that&#039;s how I see it having gone down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, it&#8217;s been a few weeks since I last posted, mainly b/c I&#8217;ve been busy and the thought of wading thru a couple hundred posts to find out who has already said what I&#8217;m thinking has been off-putting.  Having only skimmed this thread, I&#8217;ll take a stab at posting a point or two that may or may not be original.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m not convinced that Anders is on the Basestar, nor am I convinced that either Roslin or Baltar is the final Final 5.  I&#8217;m thinking that we&#8217;ll find out tonight that Helo is the final cylon.  It&#8217;s been noted that he could be because apparently the Final 5 can breed with the Sig-7 (unless the Caprica pregnancy is just a red herring).  What I didn&#8217;t see noted above (maybe it was and I missed it) is that this would answer the &#8220;Why Hera and not Nicky&#8221; question.  Hera would be significant enough to be in the Opera House visions because she represents the first of the fully-cylon children to have been bred and born (and not grown in a giant petri dish).  Some have previously speculated that Hera and Nicky might be like Adam and Eve when what remains of the fleet finds Earth, but what if Nicky is not significant at all?  Perhaps Caprica&#8217;s child will be Adam to Hera&#8217;s Eve (or maybe he&#8217;ll be a male version of Eve to Hera&#8217;s Adam, given the birth order)?</p>
<p>I agree that &#8220;Sine Qua Non&#8221; was not the greatest of episodes, and was certainly poorly edited, but I enjoyed it non-the-less.  Hearing Adama use the &#8220;Husker&#8221; call-sign was cool, but hearing Tigh say &#8220;This is Galactica Actual&#8221; made me giggle a bit gleefully <img src='http://bsgcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )  It was a bit of a shock just seeing Eddy walk onto the flight deck in that flight suit (they had a suit that just happened to accomodate his middle-age spread?).  </p>
<p>I can sort of understand the way things played out with the Lee/Zarek/Quorum storyline.  Lee invited Zarek to join the search committee, Zarek told him to sit and spin, and Lee didn&#8217;t want to ask any other Quorum members to join b/c they&#8217;re a contentious lot who seem too busy quarrelling amongst themselves unless they&#8217;re being taken by the scruff of the neck and told &#8220;this is how it&#8217;s going to be&#8221;&#8230; i.e., if you invite just a few, the rest will feel they and their constituents are being slighted, but if you invite them all then nothing gets done because any suggestions die in committee.  Lee probably never mentioned the search committee to anyone else on the Quorum until they had a candidate.  Lee wanted a small committee to do a big job, and the only one left he thought he could trust (aside from Zarek, if he wasn&#8217;t too busy sulking to join) was Romo.  </p>
<p>Whether Romo was purely nuts or just drawing down on Lee to get him to commit (and also being at least partially nuts), he worked for me either way.  Romo was astute enough to go to Papadama with bureaucratic busywork to gauge whether there was any love lost between father and son after the trial, to make sure Lee would be accepted (or rather, if Adama might not accept Zarek if no other acceptable candidate was put forward), and also to indulge in needling Adama about how he&#8217;s lost Roslin and implying that he&#8217;s lost objectivity (while slyly venting his own frustrations at having lost everything and having no power to get it back while the Adama&#8217;s seem to get their way no matter who has to sacrifice for it).  </p>
<p>When Lee went to the Quorum with his suggestion, Zarek could either silently fume or make his case for staying in power, but the Quorum would choose Lee over Zarek for obvious reasons (military command experience, family ties that can survive a mutiny, the candidate for change, etc.).  They just didn&#8217;t film it, or else let it hit the cutting room floor.  Anyhow, that&#8217;s how I see it having gone down.</p>
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		<title>By: Abaddon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abaddon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirsty, I like the theory. Roslin&#039;s dream could&#039;ve been purely her imagination. But that doesn&#039;t explain where Baltar got the stream image. 

I&#039;m hoping the hybrid was talking to Baltar, and we&#039;re just seeing the look of shock on Roslin&#039;s face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirsty, I like the theory. Roslin&#8217;s dream could&#8217;ve been purely her imagination. But that doesn&#8217;t explain where Baltar got the stream image. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping the hybrid was talking to Baltar, and we&#8217;re just seeing the look of shock on Roslin&#8217;s face.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, the Committee was 2 People and (some sort of) a Cat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, the Committee was 2 People and (some sort of) a Cat.</p>
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